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Sam Lawrence

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Posted by Sam Lawrence on Oct 20, 2006 2:57:38 PM

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Tags: eim, planet-jabber, eim, planet-jabber


Aug 14, 2007 5:52 PM Guest Bill Joy  says:

JBuilder 2006 shipped a year ago with XMPP support built into the product using the Smack library.  Jabber and GoogleTalk clients can participate in JBuilder collaborations.

 

JBuilder was designed to run without requiring a server.  It uses JmDNS and optionally XMPP to sense peers.  You can create a Jabber account and contact groups from within JBuilder.

 

Collaboration on a LAN uses JGroups which is the foundation on which an extension to the JBuilder virtual file system is used for sharing projects, files, and controlling shared debugger sessions.

 
Aug 14, 2007 5:52 PM Guest Harald Steindl  says:

Hello!

 

Well, these are my 2 cents worth of wisdom:

  • Although pricing is always too high for quite a few people; I consider this a major point. When doing some math you are running very easily into serious 4digit USD figures and this is quite a lot for a smaller company considering the fact that IEM is (not yet?) mission critical for most companies....

  • IMHO features like LDAP, Vcard or connection to all kinds of external databases dont belong into the free version. There is simply too much Enterprise stuff already in the OSS version. As one can see in the forums, big companies with a couple of thousand people are running the free version with fat Oracle dbs and massive LDAP setups. Who should they fork out the 20k USD if not these big boys?

 

Anyway thanks for a great product!

Harald

 
Aug 14, 2007 5:52 PM Guest djhersh  says:

Good points, Harald. We've been looking into pricing and will work to make it easier to get in the door. And features is always a tough call, but I think you're right that the OSS has most of the items that even mid-sized companies need -- changing the value proposition for Enterprise is key to its success (i.e. it provides meaty value above and beyond the OSS edition).

 
Aug 14, 2007 5:52 PM Guest John Bckstrand  says:

I think the problem is the business model: selling information that has already been produced is going to get harder and harder I think. Why? Because people have learnt that copying info costs absolutely nothing. Services, (ie. producing information) is where you are going to be able to make money. Of course, the revenue from information-creation is going to be directly proportional to skill/artistic ability/uniqieness etc. so no need for that revenue to always be X $ per hour of work: it could potentially be very well-payed-for work!

 

Unfortunately, I think the "we-develop-something-then-try-to-sell-it" business model is not going to work out at all! I work at a company with this exact model of business...

 

 

Not sure how this would apply to your business model, and I am sure these are things you've already been thinking about.

 
Aug 14, 2007 5:52 PM Guest matt  says:

Bill -- we had no idea JBuilder was using Smack. That's very cool.

 
Aug 14, 2007 5:52 PM Guest Chris H  says:

Can you send code pointers using IDETalk to non-IDEA apps??

 

In other words can I send a code pointer from IDEA to a a persons google talk app??

 

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